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Solving the "Refugee Problem" by Creating More Refugees

Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:38 AM EDT
world-news, israel, gaza, west-bank, refugees, ehud-olmert, evacuation, convergence, expulsion
By Yaakov

Israeli soldiers evacuating a Jewish woman from Gush Katif, August, 2005

Israeli soldiers evacuating a Jewish woman from Gush Katif, August, 2005

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The latest talk from the leaders of the Israeli government is that they will be willing to withdraw from at least 90% of the West Bank in order to make room for a new Palestinian State (my objections to this are here). If this were to come to pass, somewhere between one hundred and two hundred thousand Israeli citizens (99.9% of whom are Jews) will be forcibly relocated to different areas of the country (fitting the definition of ethnic cleansing). A new country ("Palestine", presumably) would be formed in this area, separate form Israel, able to welcome back the many many "refugees" that have been held in camps in Lebanon and Syria by their hospitable Muslim brothers for the past sixty years.

I am not so happy about this (as you might be able to tell). Not just because it means that I will have to move (whether I like it or not), but because I don't see how this will solve anything, given the current leaders of the PLO/Hamas government. Still, some variation on this plan could come to pass within the next few years, and many Jews will be removed from their homes.

This has happened before, on a smaller scale. Last Summer, Israel expelled the entire Jewish population from the Gaza strip. This includes thousands of families, dozens of communities, around 8,000 residents. The expulsion from Gaza was in the planning stages for close to two years. Special army, police and border control units practiced against mock towns full of rioting, angry fake-settlers. The country came close to civil war as anti-religious hatred came to the fore, and everyone feared for the worst.

Thankfully, the entire expulsion went through with no casualties, and hardly any serious injuries. No one fired guns at soldiers. Almost everyone left their houses when the police escorts came to knock on their doors. It was over in six days. The army and police went home, and everyone gave a sigh of relief.

Everyone, that is, except for the evacuees.

The government had planned on taking care of those they would be making homeless. A new government institution (called SELA) was put together to arrange things like housing, compensation, jobs and counseling for the evacuees. There was lots of publicity in Israel regarding this before the expulsion actually took place. Just as the government put in 110% and spared no expense to make sure that the operation went smoothly (as it did - six days), it was also presumed that the government would dedicate itself to the same degree in order to help those who were to be evacuated. (Note: all of the people who came to Gaza did so at the encouragement of the Israeli government, and Ariel Sharon).

Unfortunately, things did not turn out that way. It has now been ten months since the Jews were expelled from Gaza. Yesterday, a report was presented to the Finance Committee in the Knesset as to the status of the Gaza-Jews. Some highlights:

  • 51% of the expellees are still unemployed
  • 70% of the expellees living in Nitzan are unemployed
  • 113 families - 7% - are still living in hotels, guest houses and tent sites
  • Just 38 out of 220 people who ran functional farms or agricultural enterprises have returned to such work
  • 2% of the families live in permanent housing

In short, the government has utterly failed these people. Most are living in temporary housing, most are unemployed. Communities have been broken up, families have been ruined. People's possessions have been lost.

This is what happened when Israel expelled 8,000 people. At this in point in time, I do not have much confidence that they will improve when expelling ten to twenty times that number.

Something to keep in mind whenever discussing Israel withdrawing from areas in the West Bank. In an attempt to solve the problems of those who view Israel as the "Zionist Entity", (unless they get their act together) Israel will be causing much harm to tens of thousands of her own citizens, the very people Israel is sworn to protect.

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Valero

An old saying (Protestant- not Jewish) is: Lay down with dogs, wake up with fleas. It seems that Israel has learned a lot from America- give your enemies a lot and screw your citizens. A real shame. Well, Israel has been a country long enough to have professional politicians, not just concerned people drafted to be in the political arena.

Good luck, but I personally think you had better start packing.

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Reply#1 - Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:54 AM EDT
the egyptian

I don't want to get into a fight about whose pain and suffering is more real. But it is worth pointing out that the settlements make life totally unbearable for Palestinians. How can they get to work, how can they get to school, how can they do anything? The only good roads in the West Bank are reserved for Israelis. There are constant shutdowns and border checkpoints and incursions by the IDF. Palestinian unemployment statistics are probably double the ones you have quoted, and the vast majority of the Palestinian population now lives and dies in squalid and overcrowded refugee camps. I'm just trying to say that the pain is real for both populations, and it is silly to use a term like "ethnic cleansing" when you know damn well that it could be applied in the other direction as well.

I regret that you will have to move (and you will one day, make no mistake-- whether next year or 50 years from now) but it is a necessary step for the resolution of this conflict. Furthermore I would argue (and many would agree, though obviously not you) that dismantling the settlements and getting everyone in Israel behind a wall once and for all is the very best thing Israel can do to protect "her own citizens, the very people Israel is sworn to protect."

I agree with you that it is deeply unfair that the Israeli government is screwing over the very people it enticed to live in these settlements with tax credits, etc. in the first place. This is poor policy and bad for the people who moved to the settlements in the first place.

I want to end with a serious question. Don't you think the Gaza settlers were a little more, um, religiously motivated and possibly extremist in their political outlook than the West Bank settlers? Gaza settlers as a group choose to live in one of the most dangerous places in the world, surrounded by a population of angry and poor Palestinians many many times their size in a tiny little strip of land. West Bank settlers, on the other hand, probably are just regular Israelis who moved to get some tax benefits, be with people who think like them, etc. Don't you think that the Gaza settlers would have a much harder time reintegrating into society than the West Bank settlers? It would be nice to see the breakdown by settlement of the statistics you cite above. I have a feeling that Gaza settlers might be making a conscious effort not to move on with their lives... in the same way that Palestinian refugees have done. It's a way of saying that the "refugee problem" isn't going to go away.

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Reply#2 - Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:12 PM EDT
Yaakov

But it is worth pointing out that the settlements make life totally unbearable for Palestinians.

True, the border checkpoints and incursions by IDF would not be there if Israelis were not there. However, neither would they be there is there was no violence directed at the Israelis living there (like this, for example). Without the violence against Israelis, the checkpoints would disappear.

I'm just trying to say that the pain is real for both populations, and it is silly to use a term like "ethnic cleansing" when you know damn well that it could be applied in the other direction as well.

I agree that the pain is real for both populations. However, I think that there are significant differences in their origins that prevents a direct comparison. I know that some will accuse Israel of ethinic cleansing, and say that Israel is solely responsible for the refugees. I beg to differ.

The Arab refugees became refugees as a result of wars initiated by a number of the neighboring Arab countries, aimed at destroying the Jewish State. Arab residents left either to make way for the advancing Arab armies (after which they would have happily returned to claim formerly Jewish property for themselves) or out of fear of the Israeli army after Israeli victory. An unfortunate aspect of war, but not something that Israel invited or asked for. (Just as they did not ask or want Jordan to attack in 1967. If Jordan had not attacked, they would still be controlling the West Bank). Israel did not show up at their doorsteps with soldiers and buses, carry them out of their houses and drop them off at the border. They are refugees of war. They have been mistreated by their Muslim brothers in Lebanon and Syria for generations, simply to maintain them as a testament to Israel's crimes. But to place the blame for their predicament solely on Israel is not accurate. The countries that attacked Israel and failed to take care of their own brethren deserve just as much (if not more) blame and should be held just as responsible).

The Gush Katif refugees on the other hand were encouraged and given incentives to move their by the Israeli government and Ariel Sharon. They built communities with the assistance of the Israeli government. They were removed from a specific geographic area, against their will, because of their religion and nationality, by the Israeli government. This is the definition of ethinic cleansing. Like it or not.

Don't you think the Gaza settlers were a little more, um, religiously motivated and possibly extremist in their political outlook than the West Bank settlers

In general, yes, I would agree.

West Bank settlers, on the other hand, probably are just regular Israelis who moved to get some tax benefits, be with people who think like them, etc.

I would not totally agree with this. In general, West Bank residents are more observant of their religion and more religiously motivated than the average Israeli. Most did not move here for tax benefits. Rather, most moved for the communities that were built and in order to take part in the religious imperative to build and settle the Land of Israel.

I have a feeling that Gaza settlers might be making a conscious effort not to move on with their lives

I would also not totally agree with this. I think that 99% of the Gaza refugees would like nothing more than for the government to give them what was promised so that they can restart their communities and their lives, albeit in different locations.

    #2.1 - Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:03 AM EDT
    borg

    Big problems with your argument here.

    Arab residents left either to make way for the advancing Arab armies (after which they would have happily returned to claim formerly Jewish property for themselves) or out of fear of the Israeli army after Israeli victory. An unfortunate aspect of war, but not something that Israel invited or asked for.

    I have been unable to find any factual backing to these claims (which are rather prevalent it seems) and you seem to be taking two incorrect theories:

    1. Palestinians cleared out to make way for Arab armies.
    2. They left out of fear of the Israeli army (which apparently they shouldn't fear anyway) or war in general. i.e. war creates refugees and can't be avoided.

    and combining them.
    Actually the Israeli historian Benny Morris (in The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem - excellent book) recognises that ethnic cleansing was exactly what happened - he thinks it was a required by-product of the establishment and maintenance of Israel and ipso-facto a good thing, comparing it to the establishment of USA with regards to the Native Americans.

    As far as theory 1 [making way for Arab armies]:
    Not only is there no evidence to this but it actually makes no sense strategically.
    and theory 2 [by-product of war - not Israel's fault]:
    This is pretty much Morris' argument and there is a very detailed response that anyone who wants to take this as fact should read for themselves. See CHAPTER 3 for theory (2) in particular.

    Image and Reality of the Israel-Palestine Conflict

    NOTE:
    I have looked for and have yet to find a response to this book by anyone WHO HAS ACTUALLY READ IT and can critically respond to the ARGUMENTS in the book. It is a goldmine of careful thought and even more careful research and debunks both of these claims in DETAIL and with EVIDENCE.

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    #2.2 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:11 AM EDT
    borg

    I should have mentioned Righteous Victims: A History of the Zionist-Arab Conflict by Morris.
    This is one I find myself wanting to buy not borrow to avoid more late fees!
    Lots of primary sources.

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    #2.3 - Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:29 AM EDT
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    Looking for logic

    Yaakov,

    I would like to hear your thoughts on possible solutions (short term or long term) on what to do in the area. You make some very good points and I don't necessarily disagree with you on anything but politicians like Olmert are expected to solve problems, not shrug their shoulders and say that there is nothing we can do. So, what would you consider a viable solution?

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    Reply#3 - Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:42 PM EDT
    Yaakov

    So, what would you consider a viable solution?

    Good question...I hope to something on this next week

      #3.1 - Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:27 AM EDT
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      ajzzz

      This is not Ethnic Cleansing, this is a reversal of immoral Zionist policy that displaced many people. I am not happy that Israel wants to annex 10% of the West Bank, or that they occupy all of it. The settlers are not victims of circumstance, they moved onto other people's land. You reap what you sew, that goes for the settlers and Israel.

      The settlers can be angry with their government, who as far as I recall strongly encouraged them to settle in the West Bank, and now the same government, many of the same people, are forcing them out.

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      Reply#4 - Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:38 AM EDT
      Yaakov

      ajzzz - please see my response to the_egyptian above (comment 2.1) where I partially address your points.

      Please tell me how the immoral Zionist policy was the cause of the wars waged on Israel by her Arab neighbors, the wars that are the cause of the refugees.

      Also, please tell me how the expulsion of Jews from Gaza does not fit the definition of ethnic cleansing.

        #4.1 - Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:10 AM EDT
        Looking for logic

        I don't see how the settlers have anything to do with this. The settlers are in the same boat as the Palestinians in some respects. Neither have control over the land they live on because governments are debating in giving it away (Yaakov I'm sure can explain this frustration quite well). Its always been about what the governments do. The Palestinians may or may not have wanted the 1967 war to happen, but it did, so any Palestinians in the West Bank suddenly were living on Israeli land. Such is life when your government screws you over. Don't blame the settlers though. They have to live with the consequences of their government just as the Palestinians have to live with the consequences of their governments (Ottomans, UK, Jordan, PA-Fatah, Hamas).

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        #4.2 - Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:44 AM EDT
        ajzzz

        Also, please tell me how the expulsion of Jews from Gaza does not fit the definition of ethnic cleansing.

        Settlers profited from Zionist policies of Israel. Removing them as a reversal of Zionist policies is not ethnic cleansing. You and right-wing Zionist media might repeatedly call it ethnic cleansing but the reasons given for the withdrawal clearly aren't ethnic cleansing. Settlers were there to change the ethnicity of a place, that's ethnic cleansing.

        There are theories that Israel didn't want to have to annex Gaza, because that would mean many more Arab Israeli citizens, which obvious would be bad for the right-wing government. If this was the case, that would be ethnic cleansing, but first you'd have to make a better case that this was true.

        If everyone used your definition, Israelis bulldozing Palestinian homes would be ethnic cleansing.

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        #4.3 - Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:18 AM EDT
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