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The Red Cross Ambulance Incident

Seeded on Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:17 AM EDT
Read ArticleArticle Source: zombietime.com
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On the night of July 23, 2006, an Israeli aircraft intentionally fired missiles at and struck two Lebanese Red Cross ambulances performing rescue operations, causing huge explosions that injured everyone inside the vehicles. Or so says the global media, including Time magazine, the BBC, the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times and thousands of other outlets around the world. If true, the incident would have been an egregious and indefensible violation of the Geneva Convention, and would constitute a war crime committed by the state of Israel.

But there's one problem: It never happened.

Read this article for some very interesting analysis of the actual photgraphic evidence relating to this incident that very much calls into question the "official" version of what happened in this incident.

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Jonathan Weinraub

I am sure the media won't apologise or even admit they are wrong. The entire world loves making Israel look like @!$%# but they will never make Israel look good, especially after the media did the smearing.

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:21 AM EDT
ajzzz

It's really sick that people like zombietime and eureferendum use logical fallacies . It's worse than loose change, as far as conspiracy theories go.

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:51 AM EDT
Yaakov

Care to point out what the logical fallacies are?

  • 2 votes
#2.1 - Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:06 PM EDT
Andrew Benton

logical fallacies like facts? this "Event" never happened, it was a broadcasters lie.

  • 3 votes
#2.2 - Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:19 PM EDT
ajzzz

It's called poisoning the well, the photo appears to be of an unrelated ambulance so everything else must be a hoax. It's like saying an Israeli ship wasn't hit because the picture an Iranian news site posted was of an unrelated ship. That because shelling a beach is off, it wasn't an Israeli shell, it was mines planted by Hamas, when it's common for shells to be unexploded. That because an aid worker holds up a dead child that somehow the building wasn't bombed.

Logic is not equivalent to facts, facts are premises considered to be true. If you're having a problem understanding Andy, then I can look up some definitions of what facts and logic are, two things that you must find new territory.

  • 1 vote
#2.3 - Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:26 PM EDT
Andrew Benton

First of all, my name is not and never has been Andy. But this incident showed a ambulance they said was hit by Israeli shelling, when in fact the vehicles top was rusted out, had that hole in it long before this conflict, and people who used it have actually said their used to be a ventilation cover over that hole, conveniently taken off when they wanted to badmouth Israel.

  • 3 votes
#2.4 - Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:46 PM EDT
woccam

I understand ajzzz to be saying that the news stories are "false but accurate," as in the Dan Rather affair. (The police are often alleged to plant false evidence because they knew a crime had really been committed). I thought zombietime's painstaking analysis overwrought, overdone, boring and not quite convincing. And yet ... something lethal happened in the war, and the Israelis haven't uttered a peep to counter the propaganda. Not that I've heard. Go figure.

  • 1 vote
#2.5 - Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:47 PM EDT
ajzzz

Settle down Benton, I don't doubt that the photos show an unrelated vehicle, but that does not mean that two ambulances weren't targeted, and I cited previous incidents where unrelated photos or misinformation was given, but the event actually happened. If I'm going to fast just say.

Israel apologized, and unlike the article suggests, Israel was responsible for the other incidents it apologized for, the evidence points straight to the IDF. In the end the IDF can have as many investigations as it wants, and they can all find the IDF innocent, unless there is an independent investigation that collaborates the IDF's line, they cannot be taken seriously.

The conclusion to the article isn't consistent with its content, it relies on people not actually reading its contents, or having decided who's innocent before reading. It would have to rely on the photographers, the red cross, the news correspondents (some Western), and the hospital who treated the red cross workers to be in a conspiracy together. It relies on the belief that the photos were the sole evidence that the news media had, and that they did not rely on accounts of the people actually in Lebanon.

wikinews.org

An Israeli army spokesman said, "The incident in which vehicles were hit last night occurred in an area known to be one of the main sources of the launching of hundreds of missiles."

  • 1 vote
#2.6 - Sat Aug 26, 2006 4:09 PM EDT
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Greg Hoke

This is a song my son was humming this morning. I looked it up and we sang it together. In the process I thought maybe you guys could spend a minute pondering its message:

Go ahead and hate your neighbor
Go ahead and cheat a friend
Do it in the name of heaven
You can justify it in the end
There won't be any trumpets blowing
Come the judgment day
On the bloody morning after
One tin soldier rides away

Wouldn't it be great if everybody held hands across the green line and belted this one out? That's the world I'm working for.

    Reply#3 - Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:46 PM EDT
    woccam

    As Sam Goldwyn said, "In two words, im possible."

      Reply#4 - Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:52 PM EDT
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