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A Volcano of Terror

Seeded on Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:02 AM EDT
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Another pattern thats unusual," he said. "They use the civilian population as human shields. It's not really unusual. Hezbollah did the same thing in Lebanon. Fighters in Iraq do it there, too, although some in Iraq also deliberately murder Iraqis.

Does the local population let them do this? I said.

Its a problem," he said. "Sometimes we see resistance. But its difficult to judge from our perspective. We see a lot of cases where Katyusha or Qassam rockets are fired from within populated areas. More than that, they came up with a system that was based on the fear that we would find the exact location of the rocket launchers. So they place the launchers with a timer. And ten, eleven, and twelve year old children come and take the launcher away afterwards. Often were faced with fourteen or fifteen year old youth who come, armed, and place charges along the fence. When we see them, even when we see that they are armed, if they are only fourteen or fifteen we only shoot to scare them. We dont actually fire at them. Of course, only if there is no immediate danger to our forces.

Our general instructions," he continued, "not just in the these cases, is if we see a militant who is armed, a terrorist, and there is no immediate danger to our forces, we dont fire if there is a danger that we would hurt the innocents, people who are not involved. But with that, its important to say that when we have such aggressive fighting in populated areas, when theres an exchange of fire between terrorists and the IDF, there are cases where innocent people get hurt. But we warn as much as we can to step back, step away, to clear the area. So we see the terror organizations as responsible when civilians get hurt. And when there is a case and we know that a civilian was killed by mistake or unnecessarily, we check ourselves. When a rocket is fired and we respond with artillery fire, there could be civilians hurt. We dont fire into populated areas. Only to the exact spots where they fired Qassams. If its in the middle of the city, we will not shoot.

Michael Totten reports on human shields, terrorism, Hamas and the IDF's Gaza strategy.

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MartinEZ

Day by day I become more convinced that the carpet bombing of cities, as we did in WWII, is the only way to deal with "these people".

I don't know how I would ever justify the mass murder, if such a thing happened, but eventually, I feel the pot is going to boil over, and "genocide" will be the only "solution".

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Reply#1 - Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:08 PM EDT
JRO

I understand you are in a deep state of fright. But, genocide... a solution? You're not thinking straight. More people are killed slipping in their bathtubs, smoking and talking on cell phones while driving, yet, no calls for genocide. Before we light the ovens maybe we should consider just buying the damn oil, getting rid of Bush and kicking corporate power out of our government. Just a thought... This is not an overwhelming situation and genocide is never a solution.

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#1.1 - Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:11 AM EDT
MartinEZ

Genocide is never a moral solution. I would never support such an act either. However, it would work, until the repercussions of such actions started "rolling".

I'm not blaming "all muslims" for a single thing, but you have to admit, their passion and "reasoning" for "protecting" their ideology against anyone that even speaks down to them is way out of proportion... I don't know that there are any proportionate amount of "moderate" muslims speaking out against the "radicals" because we either, don't hear their voices, or there really aren't that many. I have no clue what the reasoning is, however, until they begin to stand up for their ideology, the "balance" I have in my head is shifting towards radicalization myself.

For some reason, after I admit that, it seems the "agenda" of this country becomes that much more clear. It's almost as though there is some unforeseen force, pulling the strings of information, trying to radicalize this country the same way the "Islamic Radicals" have been indoctrinated. I guess I have to look at it that way. I never want to become what I despise.

    #1.2 - Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:03 PM EDT
    JRO

    I never want to become what I despise.

    MartinEZ,
    I think you've already capped that bottle.
    Step away from it. You don't have to carry the ball on every play. As bad as you may perceive the situation in the world -- it's not as bad as you think and most likely you are living a very rich life.

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    #1.3 - Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:17 PM EDT
    MartinEZ

    I am well aware I have it made... And I am no bigot. I treat everyone with dignity and respect when I meet them, unless they give me a reason not to. I have only hit one person in my life, and that was my brother, and I regret that act instantly. I'm not violent or malevolent. It seems this world is becoming so polarized, there is no where left to go but left or right... Let them live, or let them die. I have become very confused in the last year as to where I stand on everything.

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    #1.4 - Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:25 PM EDT
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    JRO

    I think we are all confused. The White House is pumping fear into our heads that may be real, but, most likely not. They have lied about everything... why believe them about anything?
    I feel 99.9% safe. The .1% is fear I have comes from our American government.

    I'd bet that the world will calm down went Bush leaves office and that's just a couple of years away. That will be a huge load off our global back. I doubt Corporate America will ever find another George Bush to do their dirty work on such a grand scale.

    My bottom line is simple. I think the chance of you or me getting hurt or killed by Bush's Evil Doers is about as good as getting hit in the heart by a sting ray. If I lived in Manhattan I'd bump that up to being eaten by a shark.

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    Reply#2 - Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:23 AM EDT
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