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The Neutrality of Hospitals in Wartime

Mon Jan 5, 2009 2:51 AM EST
world-news, israel, war, terrorism, gaza, hamas, hospital, missiles, geneva-convention, neutrality
By Yaakov
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The 4th Geneva Convention (relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War) states in Part II, Article 14: "Civilian hospitals organized to give care to the wounded and sick, the infirm and maternity cases, may in no circumstances be the object of attack but shall at all times be respected and protected by the Parties to the conflict.".

Seems straightforward enough. Civilian hospitals are off limits as military targets.

However, this is qualified in Article 19: "The protection to which civilian hospitals are entitled shall not cease unless they are used to commit, outside their humanitarian duties, acts harmful to the enemy. Protection may, however, cease only after due warning has been given, naming, in all appropriate cases, a reasonable time limit and after such warning has remained unheeded.".

So if the enemy was using a hospital as a military base, was using a hospital to store weapons and to provide refuge for fighters, then it loses its protection as a hospital and becomes a fair target (once warning has been given).

Now what is going on in Gaza today?

From the Jerusalem Post:

The defense officials said it was likely that a number of senior Hamas operatives and terror chiefs were hiding and conducting their operations from within Shifa Hospital in Gaza City.

"Hamas operatives are in the hospital and have disguised themselves as nurses and doctors," one official said.

This echoes the claims made by Shin Bet head Yuval Diskin a few days ago (and let's not even get into the use of hospitals as excution grounds". And they don't exactly have an exemplary history of maintaining the neutral status of ambulances. It seems like Hamas is trying to take advantage of Article 14. Too bad they didn't read all the way to Article 19.

Now, I realize that Hamas is not actually a signatory to the Geneva Convention. However, as of July 1951, Israel is. And even if Hamas and the PLO have not obligated themselves to act according to any of these treaties (for once they refrained from signing something that they knew they would not be able to fulfill) Palestinian media talking-heads and anti-Israel commentators around the world have no hesitation in accusing Israel of war crimes. If Israel were to attack a hospital (which they might end up doing if Hamas starts using hospitals as launching grounds for missile attacks), as sad and unfortunate as it would be (since many civilians would be injured or killed), it would be an attack on a legitimate military target, and the fault would lie exclusively with those who decided to remove the protective status accorded to the hospital through the Geneva Convention by making it into a war base.

They have been warned.

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Sgt. Pepper

In your opinion Yaakov, should Israel attack the hospital?

    Reply#1 - Mon Jan 5, 2009 2:06 PM EST
    Yaakov

    If the hospital was indisputably being used as a launch ground for missiles (video evidence) and/or was providing refuge for Hamas commanders whose orders led to the deaths of Israelis, and Israel provided clear proof of this, gave warning of the violation and their intentions to those within the hospital, then after sufficient time is given to move innocent people from the hospital I think that the place should be leveled.

    • 6 votes
    #1.1 - Mon Jan 5, 2009 2:19 PM EST
    Sgt. Pepper

    Well, I'd certainly not want to be in Israel's position when deciding. On the one hand, attacking the hospital will kill many innocent lives (I'm assuming Hamas leaders within the hospital would not allow patients to leave). On the other hand, if Hamas attacks from the Hospital, even more lives could be taken.

    Great article by the way. Forgot to mention that in 1st comment.

    • 3 votes
    #1.2 - Mon Jan 5, 2009 3:50 PM EST
    Yaakov

    Well, I'd certainly not want to be in Israel's position when deciding

    And if the situation that I described came up, in the end of the day, I think that Israel would probably send soldiers into harms way to go into the hospital, rather than bomb it (as they would be entitled to do, and as any other country, including the US would do).

    • 5 votes
    #1.3 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 1:13 AM EST
    Redruby

    Yaakov,

    The defense officials said it was likely... 

    I don't think 'likely' is enough validation to attack a hospital.

    • 1 vote
    #1.4 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 9:57 PM EST
    Yaakov

    I don't think 'likely' is enough validation to attack a hospital

    And I don't see any attack

    • 1 vote
    #1.5 - Wed Jan 7, 2009 2:47 AM EST
    Psimon

    If the hospital is being used to house combatants launch attacks or store weapons then yes you'd be foolish not to attack it.

    • 2 votes
    #1.6 - Wed Jan 7, 2009 3:49 AM EST
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    backroads

    I think Hamas-use of mosques should be included. The terrorists respect nothing and they shouldn't be allowed to hide behind that which they abuse and pervert.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#2 - Mon Jan 5, 2009 9:58 PM EST
    Tim Boothby

    Mosques also lose protection if used for military purposes.

    • 3 votes
    #2.1 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 10:02 PM EST
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    urbane gorilla

    There's more.  The P.A. is denying injured Palestinians to cross for treatment in Israeli hospitals, who were prepared to take them.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#3 - Mon Jan 5, 2009 10:43 PM EST
    Yaakov

    It's easier to make Israel look bad in the world media when you can keep all of the injured people sequestered where you want them for the cameras. If Israel takes injured people from Gaza, Hamas loses this opportunity.

    • 7 votes
    #3.1 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 1:11 AM EST
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    aRTieA

    Key point:

    "Hamas is not actually a signatory to the Geneva Convention"

    And they prove that every day...

    • 3 votes
    Reply#4 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 10:23 AM EST
    samjudDeleted
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