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Why Does The New York Times Love Hamas?

Seeded on Tue Jan 6, 2009 2:38 PM EST
Read ArticleArticle Source: Steve Emerson
world-news, israel, hamas, terrorist, new-york-times, media-bias
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As for Hamas, the organization that controls Gaza, it has been sponsoring suicide bombers and launching rockets into Israel since 1987, killing and wounding thousands of Israelis (and Americans). But the Times has refused to call it a terrorist group because, according to deputy news editor Phil Corbett, the paper did not want to get into a situation where it might label a worker at a Hamas hospital a terrorist. So instead, it has given a blanket amnesty to all of Hamas—including its Izzadin Al Qassem military wing, which openly claims responsibility for carrying out terrorist atrocities.

This is a familiar ruse by Islamic terrorist groups (including the non-profit Islamic charities in the United States, which were shut down after 9/11): create humanitarian branches to distract from the true nature of their organizations. But has Ethan Bronner ever stepped inside one of these Hamas hospitals or schools? I have, several years ago, in Gaza, where I saw murals on the wall of Palestinians stabbing Israelis to death.

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Mars313Deleted
More Than Happy

If the Times really wanted to present the truth, it would simply drop the pretense of being honest and simply register as a foreign agent of Hamas.

What a bunch of horsesh!t. Maybe Mr. Emerson should realize that not everyone is as big a war-pig as he is, and stop blaming the world for his problems. Mr. Emerson must see himself as an alternative to the NYT.

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 3:51 PM EST
The Confessor

More Than Happy: The Venezuelan government has just expelled the Israeli ambassador and as for Mr. Emerson he is parroting the IDF line whereby they show so much compassion by not targeting civilians but if any civilians die then it's Hamas.' Israel continues it's genocidal onslaught in a densely populated and blockaded civilian enclave and does not see that it's conduct is a mirror image of the Nazi's towards them. How sad.

  • 1 vote
#2.1 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 4:13 PM EST
Dennis M Wright

Expulsion by Chavez is surely a badge of honour among decent folk.

  • 9 votes
#2.2 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 6:02 PM EST
George-369262

There is a reason that the NYT is losing readership and advertisers - it is simply out in La-La land, and has lost credibility, even with long-time readers like myself.

  • 4 votes
#2.3 - Thu Jan 8, 2009 5:09 AM EST
Big Al-369306

Yah I am agreeing with that NYT sucks pro lame

  • 1 vote
#2.4 - Thu Jan 8, 2009 12:08 PM EST
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Smiling Jack

Yes clearly, because they don't call them terrorists, they love them.

You know Yaakov, seeding this kind of bull@!$%# really isn't helpful to your cause.  Honestly, it isn't.

  • 9 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 4:18 PM EST
Waynester

Yes clearly, because they don't call them terrorists, they love them

Actually, when they refuse to call them terrorists they enable them. Like Reuters, who has divested themsleves of all common sense when they said one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. No, it's not. Freedom fighters don't target innocents, they don't blow up women and children for political effect you effing morons!

This is how insane it's gotten: One of the wire services published a photo of man with an assault rifle in his hands an captioned it  An alleged gunman...alleged?

I'm telling you it's bizarro world out there. The media have become active participants with agendas and if you can't see it you're effing blind.

  • 5 votes
#3.1 - Thu Jan 8, 2009 8:29 AM EST
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Dennis M Wright

Why do Israelis, Jews, and 90% of American media love dead Palestinian women and children?

That is openly anti-semitic.  In other words racist.  You might care to reconsider and apologise.

  • 7 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 6:01 PM EST
tyler

1 deleted. No way to start a discussion, Mars.

  • 4 votes
#4.1 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 6:20 PM EST
Eric AlbertDeleted
Eric AlbertDeleted
Mars313

That is openly anti-semitic.  In other words racist.  You might care to reconsider and apologise.

Yeah, I really didn't think about it like that, but you're right, I'm sorry. I felt it was an appropriately absurd statement in response to the title of the article.

The article's title implies that anyone who takes the side (in this case, The New York Times, but in other cases individual people) of the people of Gaza in this debate and conflict "loves Hamas" (which we all know means "loves terrorists" in the American, Israeli and other media).

  • 1 vote
#4.4 - Wed Jan 7, 2009 1:55 AM EST
Dennis M Wright

apology accepted - by me at least - thanks

  • 2 votes
#4.5 - Wed Jan 7, 2009 4:20 AM EST
Ol Time Design Checker

The process of regime change first with HAMAS, then with Hezbolah in LEBANON, was part of a process to illegal invasions, that culminate with the attack against IRAN. 

Sounds like a good plan to me.  Rid the world of all three.  Good Idea!

    #4.6 - Thu Jan 8, 2009 6:25 PM EST
    Ol Time Design Checker

    corporate media is heavily pro Zionist ..

    world has turned against the Zionist experiment...

    Zionism as a goal is past history. Israel exists. The UN world body created it. Eygpt and Jordan have madepeace, trade with Israel and, de facto, support it.  Deal with it.

    Certain individuals and groups have used the term "Zionism" as a pejorative to justify attacks on Jews. According to historians #Nationalist_Zionism

    Israel is a sovereign nation that has every right to defend itself by what ever means it deems fit.

    When Hamas cowards hide behind women and children and fire rockets, Israel should not just sit and watch, they act.  The leaflets Israel drops tell Gazan's to move before the attacks start.  But lol, but the Hamas pull up their burka and moves with them.

    Hamas and Gazan's are luckly Israel does not play by the same rules they do and target civilians directly.  I think they just as entitled to, like when the US and England attacked German and Japanese cities with fire bombs raids in WWII. Only when they realized their own complete destruction was at hand did they surrender.  Israel has not been pushed that far...yet.

    Will Hamas stop attacking and make peace?...No?  Will The Gazan's make peace?  Maybe when Hamas is so weakened by Israels actions, Egypt's, Saudi Arabia's and Jordan's acquiescence it becomes a liability to its own people and is overtrown and/or destroyed.

    • 3 votes
    #4.7 - Thu Jan 8, 2009 7:24 PM EST
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    Dennis M Wright

    to go after Hamas, who were elected,

    elected forever?

    When are the next elections due?

    If their legitimacy is founded on democracy then they threw that legitimacy away when they ejected Fatah from Gaza by violent coup.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#5 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 7:26 PM EST
    The Confessor

    Dennis M. Wright. You really are gullible when it comes to Israeli propaganda. Hamas was elected in 2006 and as for Fatah we know who supported them when they tried to overthrow Hamas. 

    U.S. funding, weapons and training for Fatah

    Over the 2006 and 2007, the United States supplied guns, ammunition and training to Palestinian Fatah activists to take on Hamas in the streets of Gaza and the West Bank in a U.S. effort that cost $59 million and covertly persuaded Arab allies to supply more funding. A large number of Fatah activists were trained and "graduated" from two West Bank camps while Jordan and Egypt trained two Fatah battalions.......

    Wake up Dennis and please do your homework before posting IDF talking points.

      #5.1 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 7:58 PM EST
      Waynester

      It appears to me the US was simply favoring the lesser of two evils. What else could it do? Fatah at least talks moderately even if it is only out of one side of it's mouth.

      • 4 votes
      #5.2 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 10:41 PM EST
      Dennis M WrightDeleted
      Dennis M Wright

      You really are gullible when it comes to Israeli propaganda

      I don't read Israeli propaganda.  I think for myself.  Why don't you try it?

      It makes no difference if Hamas were provoked into seizing power.  They still have no further use for democracy.  They will not yield power voluntarily, by ballot box or otherwise.

      How then are they accountable?  How do the population express their wish for a change of policy or change of government?  Hamas can do what they like now whether it expresses the will of the people or not.

      So legitimate government?  Not by any credible democratic standard, and democracy has been the basis of the legitimacy claim.  Well no longer.  They could restore it by realignining with the PA and submitting to future elections, but right now the democratic legitimacy is dead in the water.

      • 3 votes
      #5.4 - Thu Jan 8, 2009 8:10 AM EST
      Yaakov

      (Deleted duplicate comment)

        #5.5 - Thu Jan 8, 2009 9:00 AM EST
        Dennis M Wright

        Thanks, Yaakov. Broadband on go-slow today.  I got an error message so I reposted.

        • 2 votes
        #5.6 - Thu Jan 8, 2009 9:27 AM EST
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        EllieP

        If the Times really wanted to present the truth, it would simply drop the pretense of being honest and simply register as a foreign agent of Hamas.

        The Times hasn't been honest since Blair was up and coming.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#6 - Tue Jan 6, 2009 8:16 PM EST
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