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The Trust Is Gone: It Will Never Again Be The Same

Seeded on Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:16 PM EDT
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I consider the Obama administration's recent actions against the Israeli government to be outrageous and a breach of trust. I refer to the denunciations by Vice President Joe Biden, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other administration officials The world knows what happened; nevertheless, I will try to put it into context.

By Ed Koch (who in the past had been quote the Obama supporter).

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aRTieA

It called "getting thrown under the bus."

The real issue is that this US administration is telling everyone what they want to hear - even if they are constantly contradicting themselves. It is like dealing with a habitual liar - when do you know they are telling the truth.

  • 8 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:37 PM EDT
Irene-498401

There is also this feeling, like a great lump of ice in the gut, that stiffens the upper lip, at the great floods of that which what not be named, all over the internet.

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:54 PM EDT
backroads

Newshour had a segment on the situation this evening. It is a big deal, according to the story.

  • 4 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:09 PM EDT
Irene-498401

Koch backed Obama, because of Palin I think, and of course, being a fellow democrat. Which are rational political reasons. The term 'blindsided' comes to mind.

  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:08 AM EDT
DBE928

Koch had some good points, and there were no pictures or media of Obama with Netanyahu at all. None. This must mean something.

But even more disturbing than the Vice President's reaction were the comments and implicit threats voiced by Hillary Clinton in a telephone conversation she had with Prime Minister Netanyahu, described in The Times of March 12th. "In a tense, 43-minute phone call on Friday morning, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton told Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that Israel's plan for new housing units for Jews in East Jerusalem sent a 'deeply negative signal' about Israeli-American relations."
Under President Clinton and George W. Bush, Israeli Prime Ministers have offered the Palestinians a state of their own on virtually the entire West Bank and Gaza, with land swaps to compensate for any portion of the West Bank that would remain in Israel, but those offers were rejected by the Palestinians.
What is most disturbing about the truly harsh and inflammatory rhetoric of both Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton directed at the government of Israel, is that it is speculated President Obama himself may have ordered Biden and Clinton to make the statements they made. The Times of March 16th reported, "…the President was outraged by the announcement of 1,600 housing units in an ultra-Orthodox neighborhood in East Jerusalem during Mr. Biden's visit, administration officials said. Mr. Obama was deeply involved in the strategy and planning for Mr. Biden's visit and orchestrated the response from Mr. Biden and Mrs. Clinton after it went awry, these officials said." President Obama and his administration's overly harsh public reaction to the construction in East Jerusalem appears to have emboldened Israel's enemies and provided a cover for their extremist views. It has also created a serious crisis of confidence among the Israeli public that it can depend on this administration for its security.

There will be an effort this week when Prime Minister Netanyahu meets with President Obama to mend fences. There will be huggy-kissy pictures with Hillary and handshakes by Bibi Netanyahu with Joe Biden and the President, but the relations will never be the same again. Humpty Dumpty has been broken and the absolute trust needed between allies is no longer there. How sad it is for the supporters of Israel who put their trust in President Obama.

Edward I. Koch, who served as mayor of New York City from 1978 to 1989, is a partner in the law firm of Bryan Cave.

  • 3 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:10 PM EDT
Bill Payer 2005

The Israeli do not want peace, as is evident by their continued building on Palestinian land. Obama should do what is right and pull the $7 million in funding the US gives this racist apartheid regime every day.

    Reply#6 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:45 PM EDT
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    DBE928

    There are a lot of supporters of Israel on Capitol Hill, from both parties, unlike Obama:

    on Capitol Hill, lawmakers lavished praise on Israel.

    “We have no stronger ally anywhere in the world than Israel,” said House Republican leader John Boehner, R-Ohio. “We all know we’re in a difficult moment. I’m glad the prime minister is here so we can have an open dialogue.”

    Pelosi and Boehner both pointed to the threat from Iran as a top concern and an area in which the United States will cooperate with Israel. Netanyahu thanked his congressional hosts for what he called warm, bipartisan support.

    “We face two great challenges,” Netanyahu said, a “quest for peace with our Palestinian neighbors” and stopping Iran from developing atomic weapons.

    Obama has remained out of the fray as Clinton and other U.S. officials have rebuked Israel.

    Netanyahu’s visit was planned before the housing dispute, and the Obama administration appears eager to let the awkwardly timed visit pass with as little public remark as possible. Both countries are eager to defuse the tensions but have refused to detail what promises Netanyahu is making to ease the most serious diplomatic breach between the two nations in decades.

    In his meeting with Pelosi, Netanyahu said Israel had been building in east Jerusalem since the 1967 Mideast war, when it captured the West Bank from Jordan and would continue, according to Netanyahu’s office.

    The United States and other would-be international peacemakers have never recognized Israel’s annexation of east Jerusalem and equate the Jewish concentrations there with Jewish settlements on the West Bank. The West Bank would make up the bulk of a future Palestinian state, and Palestinians claim that Jewish building leaves them with less space and undesirable or unworkable borders.

    The Palestinian demand for a halt to building in Jerusalem as a precondition for peace talks, Netanyahu said, will serve only to delay peace talks further. Netanyahu said the sides “must not be trapped by an unreasonable and illogical demand.”

    Tensions between the U.S. and it main Mideast ally were palpable on Monday when Netanyahu abruptly rescheduled the venue and format of a meeting with Clinton. Instead of seeing her before photographers at the State Department, Netanyahu had Clinton come to his hotel suite for a private, one-on-one talk without aides present, U.S. officials said.

    That was followed by a private dinner at Vice President Joe Biden’s home that was meant to salve hurt feelings. Biden was visiting Jerusalem when Netanyahu’s government announced the major building plan. Netanyahu said he was unaware of the move, blaming low-level bureaucrats, but Biden condemned the step in a written statement and Clinton followed up with an angry phone call to the prime minister.

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    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/03/23/israeli-leader-gets-warmer-welcome-in-congress/#ixzz0j9GE839S

    • 1 vote
    Reply#9 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:05 PM EDT
    US Citizen-658112

    It's a pity, really, that the United States is represented by politicians. That anyone would actually believe that we the people have any faith in this class of life entity is an endless source of embarrassment to the working class of the United States.

    The politicians represent themselves and their buddies. The end. We the people have long been on-our-own. So if Israel is feeling like they've been double-talked, they now feel just like many in the US working class. Alone, with unreliable "friends".

    I think the US position in foreign policy is arguably the weakest it has been in many decades. With the US population inching closer to something resembling a civil war, and with an actual war raging on our Southern border, and the US government having little credibility with its own population, it can't be any wonder why.

    Israel, as it stands now, you join the US working class in "being on your own". If and until we can get some kind of return to a US constitutional republic, that's how it is. Best of luck to you; we're hoping the same for the ever-struggling, ever dwindling working-class here.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#10 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:14 PM EDT
    harleymc

    Trust has to be earned and is a two-way process.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#11 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:34 PM EDT
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